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Hornady should have come clean and told everyone what was going on. Instead they tried to cover it up and they look shady.

You can have all hornady crap

Actually, what about the 6.5 and 300 PRC, are they basedon the same powder??

Very disappointed with Hornady. I live in a country where reloading is not allowed. I would have bought the 7 PRC on the published data blindly. So it's completely false advertising. TG for channels like this.

I love my 69.

Well the prc is at least 200 fps slower than the Box states 😅 this is unacceptable, I dont care for the oh we needed to change propellant, because then you can change the writing to

Darn good shooting Joseph! I'm surprised at the harsh comments heaped on Hornady! It wasn't too long ago that all the ammo companies advertised velocities that were shall we say "sugar coated"! I think Hornady were one of the few that published true velocities cause they were the first to publish the load and velocity on the box with the Creedmoor. Give them a break they have done so much to advance bullets, case design and spread good scientifically backed information!

No 7PRC rifles in my country yet. Waiting for Howa to start making the 26" heavy barrel. Tikka also need to catch up!

It can’t handle the truth 🤭

6.8Wes vs 270WSM?

The 300 Rum had one heck of a successful launch ! Apparently you forgot that it even exists. In fact 99 percent of all these modern cartridges coming out are based off it as I’d say 90% of cartridges were based off the 30-06 case in the 19 century were based off it. So ya better rethink what was probably one of the most significant calibers in the modern era the 300 rum reigns supreme In my opinion.

Im glad to see companies make room for long seating deapths..

Dear America. Understand the Metric system is new, but 7,M,M,P,R,C is like saying point.30, caliber. Just call it a 7PRC or a 7mil PRC

Ron seems very youthful all of a sudden...

Gor godsake Ron,,, stop this guy you introduced him on your channel,,, his voice & boring demeanor is Killing your rep.

Ugh, you have to speed Joe up to 1.5 just to be the same speed as Ron’s normal speech pace.

doesent shoot good

Still looking for a 6.8 western..

I can buy a factory 7 prc, get reloading dies and components in a rural town here in Africa. Custom gunsmiths cant even make me a 6.8 western never mind finding components for it. 6.8 is dead everywhere except usa

I own a 6.8 western in a Winchester model 70 super grade. love the rifle and the accuracy it gives, usually around .75 to .48 inch groups. One of my favorite hand loads for this cartridge pushes the 165 ABLR just north of 3000fps. This puts it about 150 fps over my custom 270 win, so not a huge difference. While I love the cartridge and the rifle I have to admit most of the "New" offerings from companies simply are not the "Wonder rounds" manufacturers would like us to believe they are. 7PRC is a great example of this. The old tried and true 7mm Rem mag is now being made by browning and a few others with a 1in8 twist and can push the same bullets 100fps faster than even the box velocity of the 7PRC. Again not a huge difference but thats the point any of the older rounds can be fitted with a fast twist barrel much cheaper than buying another rifle and match or exceed the performance of the new.

To me, the 6.8 Western is almost a clone of the 7mmWSM. Compare those two, and get back to me.

Once upon a time, there was a 17 mm rimfire

So what's the actual current Federal 7PRC 175 ELD-X muzzle velocity? Close to 3000fps?

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Here in Germany we are one oh the C.I.P States and the 7mmPRC is allready C.I.P aproved but the 6.8 Not. So the 7mm PRC is selling pretty good here but nearly Nobody heard of the 6.8 Western. For my personal i bought me an bergara in 7mm and i want to Buy me an 6.8 when it finaly Hit the German market but what i can tell is that Hornady is more ambitious to sell Their new caliber

The 6.8 Western with the 165 ABLR using actual numbers of 3020 ft./s will shoot flatter than the 7 PRC 180 grain EDM using actual FPS of 2835 to 1000 yards. The 7 PRC is a fine cartridge, it’s just not what they say it is.

I'll stick with my 7mm rem mag

Fun to watch you shoot both guns and rounds so accurately, loved this episode. But now I need a 6.8 Western

Browning offers a 1:7.5 twist rate in the 6.8 western as well… if the 6.8 western was as widely supported like 7mm PRC I think it would have way more steam and popularity. It’s up to the Ron’s and Joseph’s of the world to spark the 6.8 to where it needs to be! 😉 😊. Get on it guys! Lol

Love those copper bullets.

🤭 The 7mm Weatherby Magnum (An 80 Year Old Cartridge) Has Been Getting Well Over 3,000 ft/s With Multiple Powder For Generations! Neither the 7mm prc, 6.8 Western, Nor The 7mm Remington Magnum Will "Outperform It"! None of These Modern Cartridges Are Anything Special Regarding "Performance"! 🤥 So, There is Nothing New Under the Sun! 🌞

If Joseph has been watching cartridge releases for over 40 years all that recoil must be keeping him young! Or he's been watching since he was a baby. These are both very excellent looking modern cartidges! I'm old school for now but these are two I have my eye on.

Picked up a browning x bolt max long range in 6.8 western. The 165 ABLR has higher BC than the 175 sierra. The Berger 170 EOL has a .670, and I have all the components to reload, 300WSM lapua brass converts easiest to 6.8 western, chop neck, anneal, resize. 26” barrel will take all 3 loads above 3000fps without pressure

.300 win mag nuff said

A good video and some great shooting. Would have been good to see some ballistic data similar to that which Ron Spomer produces, but I am pretty sure that they will show very little difference between the two cartridges. The slightly extra mass and velocity of the 7PRC will provide more energy, but they are close in most respects. You can tell just by looking at the cartridges, fairly obvious really.

Yeah, bullshit. Let’s see that old man pull that off like every other Regular Joe and not an army of “guides”.

I’m still a 30-06 fan for every critter bigger than coyote or bobcat 😉

Seekins makes a nice 6.8 western too

7-08. Cause poor

Great shooting Joe! I'm envious of your skills!!

That browning long range pro ammo in my 6.8 western clocked between 2757 and 2802 fps with most being around 2770-80’s. 2835 fps advertised. It was 81 deg out. It didnt shoot well in my super grade

Yeah the 10mm was too snappy for most people in the FBI and the 9 was too weak so they split the difference and made the 40S&W (short and weak) the 45 acp had zero influence on the development of the 40cal.

27 call is actually 7mm and 28 cal is 7.2mm

Yeah, edited video doesn't have a good look. Were those consecutive hits? Probably not, why else cut the video?

Unlike the 7 PRC, the 6.8W has published loads available for lighter bullets (including the V-max) for times when a lighter bullet is needed.

Still love my 270 WSM!

A good, honest and straightforward rundown on both cartridges. Very well done.

I’m curious if there is anything out there in like a 40 or 45 that is comparable to some of the more popular 30 caliber cartridges like 308 30-06 300 WinMag?

I would be interested in learning what are some good 40 and 45 caliber rifle cartridges out there beside the tip straight wall like 400 legend 450 bushmaster. Is there anything out there like the 300 WinMag or 338 Lapua and a bigger caliber?

I really wish that we could get a better variety of bullets to reload with!